My CCIE SP Lab Experience

After about seven months of study time, I sat my CCIE Service Provider lab this week. I passed! Heres my story.

After finishing up my R/S I knew that I wanted to do either the JNCIE SP, or the CCIE SP. Why? Because I really dig routing… like a lot (also tacos), I just think its super interesting, and obviously I am a glutton for punishment. I had a bit of a delay in even deciding what the hell I was going to do while I moved to Seattle and some other life shenanigans, but at some point I decided on the CCIE SP. I picked the CCIE over the JNCIE because I rarely touch Juniper gear in my job (which does make me a bit sad, but is the reality), and the lack of quality study/lab guides was a very big detractor.

After acquiring all the gear required to do the INE labs, I hit the books/rack. My routine would be to wake up at 5 and do as much lab work as I could every morning before heading to work. Sometimes this would be a lot of time, other times I wouldn’t be able to do much. All in all though I was able to average probably about 18ish hours a week of dedicated lab time.

The INE material was (is) awesome. Their SP workbook has two sections, the first is the “technologies labs,” and the second is basically mock labs. The technology labs are deep dives into each of the main topics that are on the blueprint — for example the VPN section (largest by and far) contains basically mini labs for CSC, Inter-AS VPNs, 6PE, 6VPE, etc. I went through all of these several times in order to build up some confidence and understanding. Having not worked for an SP a lot of this was very new to me. I’d poked ISIS and OSPF plenty, I’d spent a lot of time working on basic MPLS VPNs during my R/S studies, but the rest was very new and very overwhelming.

After a month and a half or so of that I was finally able to jump into the mock labs. I started the first one and, pretty much as expected, got my ass handed to me. I did lab one and two multiple times over trying to get to a point where I was fully understanding every issue I ran into — using these times to find topics in the Cisco documentation. I kept at this for a while and eventually realized I needed to go back to revisit some topics — particularly CSC.

CSC (or any other topic) isn’t particularly hard in a vacuum… but it is very easy to get ‘in the weeds’ and miss easy things when you are working through  mock labs, and certainly the real deal. As always, slowing down and focusing on one thing at a time makes all the difference. The lab in general is a huge undertaking and is insanely intimidating, but when you slice it up into little chunks it becomes much more manageable.

I kept churning through the INE labs and jumping back to the Cisco documentation, making little spin-off labs of my own to further test/validate my understanding of topics, and eventually I started feeling pretty good. Good enough to schedule my lab. I had about two months out and that meant zero hour.

The last two weeks before the lab I was feeling even better. I felt like I had finally broken every INE lab in every possible way and knew I knew how to get myself out of all of those situations. I felt like I could hear the labels talking to me (possibly too much caffeine?) and I just kept hammering out the labs. At some point you obviously just kind of remember what the labs are asking you to do, but that wasn’t all bad. I felt good about thoroughly understanding the WHY of what i was doing so now it was just about building insane muscle memory. Don’t stop for question marks, don’t stop to read the doc-cd, just hammer it out and verify as quickly and accurately as possible.

Finally, feeling as good as I could, I left for San Jose! I had an enjoyable day visiting with family in San Francisco, I had a good dinner, I had some beer, and I got to sleep nice and early.

Getting into the lab the next morning was awesome. I was so anxious and ready to roll, but I was able to chill out and take at least a quick read through the whole lab. This is of course important in any track, for SP its all about getting the overall picture of what you are being asked to do — where are the different AS, what is the IGP in each of them, how do they interconnect, who’s your ‘core’ carrier, do you have CSC, do you have TE to worry about, where are the IOS-XR devices (since they do things a touch differently than IOS its very important to be cognizant of where they are), etc.

After the quick read I jumped right in. By lunch I was about half way through the core parts of the lab. I skipped over all the TE and multicast — my logic being that if I run out of time, I’d rather have my core stuff squared away, and that multicast and TE wouldn’t ‘break’ any of that core functionality (other than those tasks of course). After lunch I was basically in clean up mode. I wrapped up a few of the core tasks that I couldn’t finish earlier, and set to work using TCL to ping from every router to make sure everything was still looking okay. Once that things looked solid I jumped into the ‘secondary’ type tasks — things like TE/L2VPN/Multicast/etc.

I had a few questions that I am pretty confident the proctor saved my butt on… The proctor is totally your friend! Just make sure you approach and ask questions that clearly show that you understand the technology and that you are not asking for configuration guidance, but instead clearly state why you think the question leads you to solution 1, but it could also mean solution 2, and what the implications of those solutions are.

I wrapped up by of course going back over everything with a  fine tooth comb. I caught several things that I could have sworn I had taken care of the first time through, but clearly didn’t… TCL is of course your friend! I must have spent as much time in the TCL shell as I did in config mode. Ping everything…. from everywhere…. and then do it again… and a second and third time for good measure.

All in all, I left the lab feeling reasonably good, but since it’s the CCIE there is of course that overwhelming feeling of doubt!! I promptly acquired more beer as soon as I made it to the airport… that helped everything be far more awesome 🙂

By 630 or so I got an email from Cisco… oh man…. I could not freaking open that email fast enough! ‘PASS’! I was anticipating having to wait until the following morning, or at least late that night like I did for R/S, but what a great relief! All in all, I am so glad that I decided to go for the CCIE SP. I learned SO MUCH, and even if I never work for a service provider, having the understanding of whats going on in the background is going to be invaluable.

 

TL/DR:

Pick a track that you are genuinely interested in — don’t let other people’s opinions drive your track selection.

As I’ve said before — INVEST in yourself and your lab journey by getting your own hardware (virtualize people! — I imagine DC would be hard to do this with though…) so that you can lab on your own time, all the time.

Each individual task is totally doable, but they may seem insane/overcomplicated when looking at the big picture — isolate and work on one thing at a time (seems obvious, but it’s really hard to do in the lab sometimes)

Proctors — they are cool. Ask them stuff. Worst case they tell you to re-read the question, best case they help save you some points you may otherwise have lost!

TCL — this should be incredibly obvious as well, but TCL is totally the shit. PING ALL THE THINGS!!!

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6 thoughts on “My CCIE SP Lab Experience

  1. Great write up on your CCIE SP journey. I’m currently on my CCNP SP journey but plan to go all the way to CCIE SP once it get my CCNP out of the way.

    Wow 5am starts ! Now that is dedication..I’ve been thinking of doing the same but not so easy when you have two very young children as well looking for your attention.

    • I don’t know how people with kiddos do it!! Its enough work as it is. Good luck on your journey! Did you see that the v4 SP blueprint just came out not too long ago?

      Carl

  2. Great article. I am embarking on either R/S or SP. I haven’t fully decided yet. I find both of them very interesting. What do you find would be an “easier” Lab test to take for starters on the CCIE? Of course they are not easy by any means. Just wondering which one you struggled with less.

    Also, how long over all did it take you to pass the R/S and/or SP?

    Johnathan

  3. Great Post! Lots of great information. May I ask, were you able to run TCL from the XR boxes? My understanding is tcl is supported, but you may need certain permissions to run the tclsh.

    • I don’t recall trying to run it on the XR boxes (but its been a while now!). I of course ran my TCL scripts on all the IOS devices to verify things throughout the lab.

  4. Hi, congratulation dear, i have passed my CCIE R&S like you also and i’m about to start my CCIE SP V4 study, can you guide me and tell me how you build your INE topology on the PC and what is the required specs for the PC as i have 16 GB Ram and they told me that it’s not enough, need more details about your preparation please, congrats again and thanks in advance 🙂

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